Vatican II: What Do I Think of It?

Vatican II

“What do you think of Vatican II?”

This question was posed to me just recently by my niece. We were on our way back from a family function in New Hampshire. My sister-in-law was driving while I held them both as a captive audience while pontificating about religion, spirituality, and such. I was a little taken aback because I honestly hadn’t thought much about Vatican II for many years. Even though I have lived as a Roman Catholic under Vatican II’s aegis and its impact for some 50 plus years. I needed a refresher on issues to give my perspective on them. So here goes:

Was There a Need?

Evidently, in 1962, Pope St. John XXIII felt there was a need.  He called Vatican II an “aggiornamento,” bringing up to date Church teachings and practices.  Fifty plus years later, there is much discussion among the clergy and laity of problems that have arisen.  There is a call for further evaluation and possible correction among Vatican II Council’s documents.

It had been about 100 years since the Catholic Church had its last Ecumenical Council, and indeed times had changed. We needed a doctrine and practices refresher between the Church and the world.

Significantly, the Eastern Orthodox and the Protestant churches of the world. The Vatican II worldwide Ecumenical Council was only the third since the Council of Trent back in the mid-1500s. The Protestant Reformation, with the writings and preaching of Luther, Calvin, and their followers triggered the Council of Trent. It was during Trent that the great rift between Catholicism and Protestantism occurred. No doubt, there was a tremendous need to update Catholicism in the 1900s. Vatican II seemed to fulfill that need to a degree.

Shrinking the Great Divide

Trying to close the schism between Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy is, I believe, a good thing. As is closing the rift between Anglican and other Protestant religions is also a good thing. The Catholic Church no longer forbids Catholics from attending a Protestant service or reading a Protestant Bible.

Still, Catholics cannot and should not receive Communion or any Catholic sacrament in a non-Catholic church. Catholics cannot substitute a Protestant service for a Catholic Mass unless there is no Mass available. Actually, with the advent of technology, live streaming Masses are provided. All Catholic sacraments are the purview of only the Catholic Church and, under certain circumstances, the Eastern Christian Orthodox Churches. Receiving Communion in a Protestant church is not a substitute for Communion in a Catholic Church. That hasn’t changed, nor do I think that it should.

However, as I write this, I’m reminded of other Vatican II changes in the Catholic Church regarding the admitting of married Anglican male ministers into the Catholic Church’s priesthood.  I think that’s a good thing for the Catholic as well as the Anglican communities.  Whether that somehow signifies a breach in the Catholic Church’s position on married priests, I’m not sure.  I would go to Mass and receive Communion from a married Catholic priest as quickly as I would from a celibate Catholic priest.  However, many traditional Catholics take umbrage with that idea.

Speaking of tradition, it seems that the whole discussion about Vatican II stems from disagreements between Church Traditionalists vs. Church Progressives. I think the goal of Vatican II was to make things easier for non-Catholics to become Catholics. All of these kinds of changes occurred due to Vatican II, and I think that’s all good. I honestly do not believe that Jesus had in mind that there would be hundreds of denominations of Christian followers. He built His Church with His apostles.  I think his idea was “one, holy, catholic and apostolic church.”

Jewish Blame

Vatican II addressed several other issues that needed to be brought out and put to rest.  People cannot charge the Passion and Crucifixion of Jesus in His day against all the Jews of His day, nor can they be assigned to today’s Jews. That is ludicrous. It wasn’t all the Jews who wanted Jesus crucified; it was the high priests and some of their crowd plants that shouted, “Crucify him, crucify him.” That is like saying that all Germans past and present are guilty of the Holocaust. That’s nonsense! We are not responsible for someone else’s wrongdoing, mostly if that wrongdoing was ancestral. If that were the case, every American who had a European ancestor would be accountable for the genocide of native American Indians! Every white American today would be responsible for black slavery of yesterday.

Women’s Roles and Activist Clergy

Women’s roles in the Catholic Church include singing, reading, lecturing, Eucharistic ministers, and altar servers.  Nuns were able to shed their habits and clothe themselves in a similar way to the people they were serving.

When nuns (and male clergy) have the freedom to shed their habits, they shed their religious born inhibitions and become civil rights and anti-war activists. Today nuns are an active force in dealing with pro-life issues, women’s rights, and other social causes. As far as the Catholic Church was concerned, this shift was nothing short of revolutionary. I’m not sure if we will ever see a female Roman Catholic priest, but anything is possible. These changes came out of a progressive-leaning Vatican II, and I think for good! Remember, we are talking of the 1960s, which was an era of social and political activism!

The Mass

Saying the Mass in the people’s language, and not only in Latin, was a tremendous shift in the Catholic Church. The Mass is not expressed by a priest whose back is always to you and whose words no one could understand. Now the priest faces you and welcomes you to celebrate the Liturgy with him in your language and with your full participation.

That simple shift has made millions of the faithful a more participatory worshiper at Mass. We should not be robots at Mass. We need to be actively involved in the Liturgy of the Mass. Vatican II sought to engage people in the Mass and not make it so confusing that it became a tedious, meaningless exercise. Mass should never be boring nor pointless! Good grief! We worship a living, vibrant Jesus, not a 2000-year-old dust-covered myth!

That vernacular shift did not go without some disagreement amongst the voting clergy who participated in Vatican II; many wanted Latin to remain the language of the Mass. I think keeping the Latin Mass is part of traditional Catholicism and should never be discarded. It should be maintained, added to parishes’ liturgical Mass schedules. Why not have a particular Mass on a Sunday morning be said in Latin? I for one would welcome such a tradition at my parish. Who knows how many Catholics yearn for traditional Latin Masses?

As I mentioned earlier, Pope John XXIII heralded the proposed program for Vatican II as an “aggiornamento.”   Some church leaders in attendance found “aggiornamento” too progressive and called for a move back to pre-Council of Trent ways. The rival term used was “ressourcement,” which meant returning to earlier sources, traditions, and first Church symbols. The Second Vatican Council did encourage a back-to-basics movement that included a renewal of the scriptural reading of the Bible rather than relying solely on devotional writings, booklets, and the Catholic saints’ lives. Why not have both “aggiornamento” and “ressourcement”?

Priestly Training

A firm emphasis on priestly training was encouraged by Vatican II participants. They wrote in the document Optatam Totius that the Catholic Church’s renewal was dependent upon the ministry of priests. Thus, priests’ training is of paramount importance, and that each country should establish programs for such activity that would be sanctioned by the Holy See. They called for an increase in spiritual vocations with the setting up of major seminaries. After careful screening of religious candidates, rigorous spiritual training should follow. Training should not end with ordination. It should continue through local and country conferences, meetings, retreats, and worldwide synods.

The Holy Eucharist

Vatican II describes the Holy Eucharist as an essential part of our relationship with Jesus Christ.  The Council’s document Sacrosanctum Concilium says that Holy Communion is how we, as Catholics, receive the body and blood of Christ; it is our spiritual nourishment, and as such, it is the foundation of our Holy Church. There seems to be much debate in how a Catholic receives Holy Communion. Traditionalists feel the priest should give it on the tongue; progressives think the priest should give it in the recipient’s hand. I think the only thing that matters is receiving the Body and Blood of Christ as often as you can and in any way you can.

A Most Important Document: The Catechism of the Catholic Church

One of the most significant results of Vatican II, if not the most influential, was the publication of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in 1992. Twenty-plus years after Vatican II, Pope John Paul II convened a commission of 12 headed by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to prepare a draft of the Catechism. This publication was deemed needed during Vatican II and frequently mentioned in the many synods since Vatican II. The commission worked on it for about ten years. On 11 October 1992, the thirtieth anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council, in the fourteenth year of his Pontificate, Pope St. John Paul II presented its completion. After the presentation, he added:

The principal task entrusted to the Council by Pope John XXIII was to guard and present better the precious deposit of Christian doctrine, in order to make it more accessible to the Christian faithful and to all people of good will. (St John Paul II, Fidei Depositum, 11 October 1992, Introduction)

What Next?

Writing in the RI Catholic, Father John A. Kiley’s Opinion calls for revisiting documents of Vatican II.  “The upheaval (yes, upheaval) that followed Vatican II came from paying too much attention to contemporary secular trends and social movements—thus allowing the profane world to set the Church’s schedule. They gave too little attention to re-discovering and re-appreciating the divine direction implanted within the Church from its apostolic start.

“Half a century after Vatican II, the challenge is not to return to Trent but rather to return to the documents of Vatican II themselves to ponder what they truly said and enact what they taught. The contemporary Catholic world does not need another Congress of Vienna nor another Council of Trent.”

Final Comment

There’s much more to Vatican II, and if you want to read all 16 Documents, you can find them here. I agree with Father Kiley. We, as Catholics, don’t need another Vatican II gathering.  We need to spend more time on each document’s essence and how each document impacts everyday people. I believe a revisiting of Vatican II documents will positively affect clergy and laity; the effect will be a more knowledgeable and understanding Catholic Christian community.

But there is another pressing need. Roman Catholicism is hemorrhaging with people leaving the Church, closing down schools and churches, struggling with the dwindling number of participants in the faith, and dealing with the “nones.”  If the phenomena of shrinking followers were not enough of an evangelizing dilemma, then the public split within the Catholic Church by conservative and progressive elements has added more confusion. Is it not possible to foster “aggiornamento” and “ressourcement”?

Is the Christian doctrine that came out of the Councils of Vatican II and written in our Catechism precious enough to instill in us a desire to evangelize it and make it more accessible to the faithful?  Or, should it be thrown out the window in its entirety because, as Archbishop Vigano calls it, it was a “devil council”?

What do you think of Vatican II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

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6 thoughts on “Vatican II: What Do I Think of It?”

  1. I am saddened this article was published….”what do you think about Vatican II?”….many troubling thoughts here, but the one thought most disturbing is this “I’m not sure if we will ever see a female Roman Catholic priest, but anything is possible.”….no, this is not possible. Women can never be priests. To the author, please find a good priest or teacher to learn why this will NEVER happen. If it does, we will then know the evil one has truly entered the deepest part of the The Church. God help you and may you learn the truth of this teaching.

  2. I agree that we need to keep Christ first in our life, attend mass in the language we choose and receive the Eucharist in the manner we choose. The problem arises when people believe themselves superior to others due to the way they choose to celebrate their Catholicism. We need to respect each other‘s preferences. My father once explained to me why he did not like the change in the priest facing the people. He explained that, when the priest faced the altar, the congregation was celebrating the mass with him because they were all facing the altar. Once the priest turned to face the people, my father felt that he was more a spectator than a participant.

  3. an ordinary papist

    In June 1963 when Buddhist prayer flags in Vietnam were banned and replaced by the Vatican’s Papal flag being hoisted in its place, the riots that followed saw 9 protesters, demonstrating for the religious equality afforded them under the French. killed. A devout Buddhist monk named Thich Quang Duc, immolated himself in a public square to bring attention to this persecution. Two years later Vatican 2 concluded with its opening statement titled : On non Christian religions. Coincidence ? I hardly think so. We reject nothing that is true, the very short article one summarized. After 3000 years of continuous devotion on their part, I hope the CC has the spiritual capacity to mine those truths.

  4. This is the opinion about the Second Vatican Council expressed by Our Lady of All Nations six months before the closing of the session in Rome.

    May 31, 1965 by Ida Peerdeman [http://messolans.org/EucharisticExperience34.aspx]
    Quote: >>During Holy Communion the Sacred Host became active again on my tongue. I saw a pair of lips with a finger across. The finger made the sign of the Cross at those lips. Then I heard the voice say “Thus it is all right.”
    There was a pause and after that I heard,
    “Go to Pope Paul and tell him in the name of ‘the Lady of All Nations:’
    “This is the last warning before the end of the Council. The Church of Rome is in danger of a schism.
    “Warn your priests. Let them put a stop to those false theories about the Eucharist, sacraments, doctrine, priesthood, marriage age family-planning. They are being led astray by the spirit of untruth – by Satan — and confused by the ideas of modernism. Divine teaching and laws are valid for all time and newly applicable to every period.
    “Keep the primacy in your own hands. Grasp the meaning of ‘ these my words: the Church of Rome must remain the Church of Rome.
    “Do what the Lord has demanded of you—in sending Me, the Lady or Mother of All Nations. You are the Pope who has selected for this work. Let the nations say the prayer before My picture and the Holy Spirit will come! A Church or a people without a Mother is like a body without a soul.

    “This period is now coming at an end.” >> End of quote.

    The course of events in the world, the closure of churches on a global scale clearly testifies to the end of an era. What era? The end of these two millennia, during which the whole Church cried out to the Heavenly Father in the Lord’s prayer: “Thy kingdom come!” This confusion in the Church today is not just a crisis, it is a breakthrough of the epochs: the transition from the darkness of the Catholic faith to living in the brightness of the kingdom of God on earth. [More details https://luisapiccarreta.me/book-of-heaven%5D.

  5. Before Vatican II we were one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church. Vatican II was based on good intentions, but its post history was tragic. Priest and nuns left in droves, the faithful attended church less and less. A horrible sexual predation erupted among the low as well as the high clergy, bankrupting several dioceses having to pay for out of court settlements. And there is no central directive to keep worship uniform. And the saddest part is that the faithful themselves have split into two camps, the traditionalists and the novus ordo Catholics. Are we still one church if our liturgical practices may be as different as there are individual parishes? E.g. in one church the priest elevates the Host high up for adoration, in another you can hardly see it, the priest keeps it so low above the altar. Catholics have three ways of receiving Holy Communion: kneeling and on the tongue, standing and on the tongue, and standing and in the hand. I don’t mind lay extraordinary ministers reading or distributing Holy Communion, but they should all wear at least a surplice, a they do in some parishes. The women’s clothing is frequently totally inappropriate for service in the sanctuary. Apparently aggiornamento and resourcement, like oil and water, will not mix.

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