How Could There Be Suffering Before the Fall?

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Evolution. The word alone sends a shiver down the spines of many Catholics, but the truth is that it doesn’t pose nearly as much of a problem for our faith as some people think it does.

For example, there are good reasons to believe that the seven-day creation account in Genesis was never intended to be taken literally, and the Church herself has said that the theory of evolution and the idea that the human body evolved from earlier life forms such is not incompatible with her teachings, provided we understand that the human soul is the direct creation of God.[*]

The Problem of Sin

There is one genuine problem that looms over every Catholic discussion of the theory of evolution, however, and to this day, we still don’t have a definitive resolution to it. It is this: How can we square evolution with the Church’s teaching about the effect of Adam and Eve’s sin on the entire world?

The Church tells us that Adam and Eve’s sin didn’t just mess up human nature; it had disastrous consequences for the world as well. According to St. Paul, “creation was made subject to futility” (Romans 8:20) and “all creation groans in labor pains” (Romans 8:20). The Catechism says that Adam’s sin put all of creation in “bondage to decay” (Catechism, 400), but this teaching is tough to reconcile with modern evolutionary science. In particular, science tells us that this “bondage to decay” was well under way before human beings ever came on the scene.

So, how can we reconcile this scientific tenet with our belief that humanity’s Fall threw the entire created order out of whack? Admittedly, we are on very speculative ground here, so we can’t have much certainty that any given theory is right. All we can do is offer possibilities, so here is my best educated guess at an answer.

The Garden of Eden

Let’s start by taking a look at a key detail in the second creation story:

And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground the Lord God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (Genesis 2:8-9)

These verses tell us that in the big wide world God created, there was a place called Eden, and somewhere in that place, there was a garden where He put the first man (and with him the first woman). Significantly, this means that the garden paradise God made for Adam and Eve didn’t encompass the entire world. Rather, it was just one part of the world. Perhaps the rest of creation was not as amenable to them as Eden.

Subduing the Earth

And if we turn to the first creation account, we find important confirmation of this. When God made our first parents, He told them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it” (Genesis 1:28). Now, if the entire world was already a paradise, why would mankind have to subdue it? Wouldn’t it already have been subdued for them?

So again, this implies that the paradise God created for mankind didn’t encompass the entire world. Rather, it was only part of the world, and the rest of it was an untamed wilderness. We might even say that everything outside it was already in “bondage to decay,” and human beings were supposed to release it from that bondage.

In essence, Adam and Eve were supposed to turn all of creation into a paradise just like the garden. This raises an important question for us: why didn’t God just make the whole world a paradise from the start?

The Devil and His Minions

The answer, I believe, lies in the second creation story. It tells us that the serpent who tempted our first parents was already there before they sinned (Genesis 3:1). The New Testament clarifies that this serpent was actually the devil, “the ancient serpent” (Revelation 12:9). Presumably, he and the other fallen angels were already roaming the earth long before Adam and Eve came on the scene. They had the chance to wreak havoc on God’s good creation well before human beings evolved.

The fallen angels were most likely the originators of the world’s “bondage to decay.” They messed the world up before God ever created mankind, so when Adam and Eve finally showed up on the scene, their mission was to be God’s agents to restore the rest of the earth and free it from the devil’s grasp. God gave them a “home base” to start with in Eden, and from there they were supposed to go out and recapture the rest of the earth and bring it back under His rule.

What Adam and Eve Did

But they obviously didn’t do that! Instead, Adam and Eve let the serpent lead them into sin, so they lost any chance they had of fulfilling their mission to rescue the earth from his dominion. Because of this, Satan’s grasp on the world was strengthened, and the entire creation was put in permanent subjection to the evil that he and his minions had brought upon it (at least until God will intervene in a much more radical way at Jesus’ Second Coming).

St. Paul recognized this. The full verse of Romans 8:20 quoted partially above says: “For creation was made subject to futility, not of its own accord but because of the one who subjected it.” And the “one who subjected it” was the evil one himself.

In this way, I would suggest, we can have our cake and eat it too. As science tells us, evil and suffering came into the world before the Fall, but in accordance with the Church’s teachings, the Fall was the nail in the coffin that made this bondage permanent and worldwide.

Theological speculation such as this helps us to makes sense of the biblical data. The reflections here fit well into the Church’s teaching about the effects of the Fall. At the very least, it shows that some conjectures of the scientific theory of evolution don’t necessarily contradict our Catholic faith.

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[*EDITOR’S NOTE: While the Church allows the possibility of “the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter” (Humani Generis, 36), Catholics are not strictly bound to believe that humans in their material reality descended from other animal species, even if there might be striking similarities in their respective DNA. Correlation, in this case, is not necessarily evidence of causation. In a previous Catholic Stand article, Bob Kurland cites the “Mitochondrial Eve” hypothesis that suggests “there is evidence from analyses of mitochondrial DNA that humanity indeed did originate from a very limited gene pool, possibly just a pair (Adam and Eve).” This has also been noted elsewhere by Fr. Terry Donohue, CC.]

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Robert
Robert
4 years ago

JP:

I disagree with you. That entire chapter is also about God’s creation of the earth.
Take off your blinders!

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

JP:
And just because you disagree with my thoughts, it doesn’t make you correct about what God meant.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

JP:
My point?
The scripture reading is God’s response to Job. I thought it was appropriate for the topic at hand, i.e. creation of the earth.
However, I also think that God’s response would be appropriate to Darwin’s theory of evolution, the Pope’s comment about evolution, and your article.

Andrew
4 years ago

My credentials are irrelevant because, even though I have a Science Degree, that doesn’t make a wit of difference when it comes to the all to easily accessible fact that our dating methods for the age of the earth, and anything else within it, are seriously flawed. Here is the link, since my suggestion to do a simple Google search about it was not accepted. This site states 3 (assumptions):

https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-problems-with-the-assumptions/

In Christ,
Andrew

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Andrew
4 years ago

Thanks for sharing.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

For those who would validate the theory of evolution by a self-proclaimed agnostic, I offer these words from the Bible for consideration.

Job 38
New American Bible (Revised Edition)
VIII. The Lord and Job Meet

Chapter 38

1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm and said:

2 Who is this who darkens counsel
with words of ignorance?
3 Gird up your loins now, like a man;
I will question you, and you tell me the answers!
4 Where were you when I founded the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its size? Surely you know?
Who stretched out the measuring line for it?
6 Into what were its pedestals sunk,
and who laid its cornerstone,
7 While the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Who shut within doors the sea,
when it burst forth from the womb,
9 When I made the clouds its garment
and thick darkness its swaddling bands?
10 When I set limits for it
and fastened the bar of its door,
11 And said: Thus far shall you come but no farther,
and here shall your proud waves stop?
12 Have you ever in your lifetime commanded the morning
and shown the dawn its place
13 For taking hold of the ends of the earth,
till the wicked are shaken from it?
14 The earth is changed as clay by the seal,
and dyed like a garment;
15 But from the wicked their light is withheld,
and the arm of pride is shattered.
16 Have you entered into the sources of the sea,
or walked about on the bottom of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you,
or have you seen the gates of darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth?
Tell me, if you know it all.
19 What is the way to the dwelling of light,
and darkness—where is its place?
20 That you may take it to its territory
and know the paths to its home?
21 You know, because you were born then,
and the number of your days is great!
22 Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
and seen the storehouses of the hail
23 Which I have reserved for times of distress,
for a day of war and battle?
24 What is the way to the parting of the winds,
where the east wind spreads over the earth?
25 Who has laid out a channel for the downpour
and a path for the thunderstorm
26 To bring rain to uninhabited land,
the unpeopled wilderness;
27 To drench the desolate wasteland
till the desert blooms with verdure?
28 Has the rain a father?
Who has begotten the drops of dew?
29 Out of whose womb comes the ice,
and who gives the hoarfrost its birth in the skies,
30 When the waters lie covered as though with stone
that holds captive the surface of the deep?
31 Have you tied cords to the Pleiades,
or loosened the bonds of Orion?
32 Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth in their season,
or guide the Bear with her children?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens;
can you put into effect their plan on the earth?
34 Can you raise your voice to the clouds,
for them to cover you with a deluge of waters?
35 Can you send forth the lightnings on their way,
so that they say to you, “Here we are”?
36 Who gives wisdom to the ibis,
and gives the rooster understanding?
37 Who counts the clouds with wisdom?
Who tilts the water jars of heaven
38 So that the dust of earth is fused into a mass
and its clods stick together?
39 Do you hunt the prey for the lion
or appease the hunger of young lions,
40 While they crouch in their dens,
or lie in ambush in the thicket?
41 Who provides nourishment for the raven
when its young cry out to God,
wandering about without food?

Fr Martin Fox
4 years ago

AN ORDINARY PAPISTFEBRUARY 24, AD2022 AT 2:06 PM
And so the author of Genesis tried again, and came up with what we have.

A fictional account as opposed to non fiction.

AnOrdinaryPapist, that is calumny.

I defy you to identify *anywhere* in my comment where I stated or described Genesis as “fiction.” Quote me. Or retract your lie about me.

I described Genesis as perhaps a second attempt to tell a TRUE story a DIFFERENT way.

Either you simply slipped up, and in that case, I am sure you will be eager to retract your calumny and apologize.

Otherwise, you are a vicious person who needs to go to confession.

an ordinary papist
an ordinary papist
Reply to  Fr Martin Fox
4 years ago

I’m glad you don’t have access to a rack.

Fr Martin Fox
4 years ago

This is a big topic to say the least, as are most forays into interpreting Scripture. I commend you for it, and I like a lot of what you said.

However, I must caution you: if you want to do this, be far more careful with your terminology. Specifically, when you speak of the Bible being “taken literally.”

Given the work you’ve done in college and graduate school, you really ought to be familiar with the perils of this kind of language. I strongly recommend you read or re-read Raymond Brown’s article in the New Jerome Biblical Commentary on the literal sense. Yes, I know the problems both with him in particular and that source in general; I do not give a blanket endorsement to their approaches *at all*! But on this particular issue, I think Brown has it right: the literal sense is that which the human author intended, to the extent we can figure it out.

Why does this matter?

Because then we don’t get into this trap of saying, oh we don’t take Genesis (or any other part of the Bible) “literally.” In fact, when we correctly understand our own words, we can say we take 100% of the Bible “literally,” meaning: as the human author intended his words to be taken.

In this case, it is certainly reasonable to suppose that the author of Genesis intended his account of Creation to be something other than what we would call a “scientific” presentation. That doesn’t make it contrary to natural sciences; it doesn’t make it a whit less true. It means that the human author didn’t look at the world through a modern lens, and that would be obvious once you think about it.

Think of it this way. Let us fancifully suppose the author of Genesis (through divine inspiration, perhaps) knew absolutely everything there is to know about the age of the universe, the development of life in it, including on earth, and all the relevant disciplines of geology and biology and so forth. And let us further suppose his first draft of Genesis incorporated all this. That would read rather like those texts we had in high school, don’t you think? Isn’t that exciting to contemplate? I’m sure all of us treasure those textbooks and frequently return to them for inspiration, right?

Continuing my fancy, imagine the author of Genesis shared his first draft with friends and family, and asked their opinion. They’d say what we’d say: BORING!

And so the author of Genesis tried again, and came up with what we have.

My point being that there need be no conflict between the text of Genesis and “science,” however we understand that term. It’s two different ways of apprehending the truth. If we choose not to read Genesis as a science textbook, that doesn’t mean we’re not taking it “literally”; instead, it means we really are. We’re reading it for what it is, not what it is not.

an ordinary papist
an ordinary papist
Reply to  Fr Martin Fox
4 years ago

And so the author of Genesis tried again, and came up with what we have.

A fictional account as opposed to non fiction.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

JP:
You assert that the Bible is the truth, but you don’t believe that Genesis 1 should be taken literally.
Wow!
If that’s the case, then logically speaking, what in the Bible is true? And if the Bible isn’t true, who are we to believe? You? Darwin? The Pope? The Vatican’s astronomer? Our priest?
I think not!

Peter K
Peter K
4 years ago

Nice article, but I find it hard to believe that “The word evolution alone sends a shiver down the spines of many Catholics”. Nor indeed of any Catholics. Only of the more extreme Protestant fundamentalist heretics.

Peter K
Peter K
Reply to  Peter K
4 years ago

Maybe it’s just that I’ve never been to the USA where even Catholics are influenced by the surrounding Protestant Fundamentalist culture.

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Robert
Robert
4 years ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pope-francis-evolution-big-bang-theory-are-real-n235696

https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/creationism-dismissed-kind-paganism-vaticans-astronomer-2508334

So, do you agree with these 21st Century voices more than the Bible?
Maybe you should revisit Genesis 1:1-2.

Genesis 1:1-2
New American Bible (Revised Edition)
Preamble. The Creation of the World
Chapter 1
The Story of Creation. 1 In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth— 2 and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waves.

captcrisis
captcrisis
4 years ago

Catholics owe no allegiance to the Genesis account, any more than to other Old Testament headscratchers like God ordering genocide or killing babies, or unwilling girls being served up like hors d’ouevres.

captcrisis
captcrisis
Reply to  captcrisis
4 years ago

So this means we are supposed to reject evolution? Or agree with the judgment in Galileo’s case (which JP II apologized for)?

captcrisis
captcrisis
Reply to  captcrisis
4 years ago

Figurative vs. literal. That’s the whole nub of it, isn’t it?

1. Any time the literal language becomes impossible, ridiculous or offensive, we can say it’s “figurative”. Galileo’s inquisitors took geocentric language (in Joshua, Isaiah, the Gospels, Psalms 19 and 104) as literal, but the Church has changed its mind and now says it’s figurative. This seems like a cop-out.

2. How do we know which is which? As you point out, Jesus said he was a vine, and that was figurative. But when he says bread and wine is his body and blood, that’s literal. Or so the Church teaches. But one can’t determine which is which just from reading the text.

3. Even changing it to figurative doesn’t always solve the problem of offensiveness. There is no way one can “figuratively” defend smashing babies’ skulls as in Psalm 137. And what does the Garden of Eden story mean, even in figurative terms? That it’s bad to know the difference between good and evil? I haven’t seen a good explanation of this yet.

Andrew
4 years ago

Evolution is nonsense because we were not evolved by God, we were created out of the dust/clay of the ground. Also, as any well versed science person knows, there are five unproven assumptions (that can give easily found with a web search) which are the basis for the seriously flawed dating methods used to come up with evolutions anti-biblical assertions. Check out Genesis Apologetics to get up to speed more easily and God bless! We do not come from apes or goo!!!

In Christ, Andrew

Bob Kurland
Reply to  Andrew
4 years ago

Andrew, please, before you start making assertions about what “any well versed science person knows,” establish your credentials. All sorts of stuff–sciience and nonsense goes on the web. I am a “well versed science person,” (BS Caltech–with honor, Ph.D. Harvard Univ, still being cited –more than several thousand at last count–and with a name equation to my credit–web search “Kurland-McGarvey Equation” and I don’t believe a word of what you’ve written. By the way if Genesis 1 is to be taken literally in the ordinary sense of the word, then you should go back to the original Hebrew…and you should have to discredit not only evolution of animals but also of the cosmos, and that takes what the Catholic Encyclopedia calls “invincible ignorance.” I am amazed that people credit GPS (depending on satellites that use relativistic corrections to keep time) computer solid state devices (which depends on quantum mechanics0 but brush away other parts of physics or science.

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