Bayes’ Theorem, Vampires, and the Bible

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Can Bayes’ theorem debunk tales of vampires or books of the Bible, such as the Lucan book of Acts, identifying it as mythology as evidenced by its reporting of a slaying by an angel? Raphael Lataster, a professional in religious studies at the University of Sidney argues the affirmative for biblical literature.

Specifically, Lataster has applied what he calls Bayesian reasoning (p. 286) to falsify the report in Acts 12:21-23 of Herod Agrippa’s death as slain by an angel. This essay agrees if Bayes’ theorem can mathematically debunk books of English literature, such as Bram Stoker’s Dracula, identifying it as mythology as evidenced by its reporting of a slaying by a vampire. This essay removes any positive or negative religious prejudice by applying Bayes’ theorem to reports of slayings by vampires, whom many can agree are solely fictional. It demonstrates that Lataster’s argument is neither valid nor based on Bayes’ theorem.

To understand both Lataster’s ‘Bayesian reasoning’ as well as Bayes’ theorem, both are illustrated in this essay using a Bayesian population of human deaths, which includes ‘deaths by vampires’ rather than ‘deaths by angels’.

A Preliminary Basic Error: Equivocation

Before contrasting what Lataster concludes to what actually can be concluded using Bayes’ theorem, consider the logical error of equivocation by Lataster. Lataster presents an argument the subject of which is mathematical probability, but the conclusion of which is natural possibility. Lataster’s exact words are:

The inherent probability of the theory (without yet considering the available evidence, such as the reference in Acts), P(h|b), is infinitely small. Conversely, P(~h|b), is very large, rendering the possibility of h, virtually 0%.

[Note: (h) is the subset of humans slain by angels; (~h) is the subset of other human deaths, (e) is the subset of human deaths in Acts, wherein Herod Agrippa is slain by an angel, and (b) is the subset of human deaths other than deaths reported in the subset (e).]

What is probability? It is a concept within the mathematics of sets. Probability is the ratio of a subset to a set. Given a set of four coins, consisting of one dime and three quarters, the probability of a dime is one quarter, i.e. 1/4. That’s it!

Lataster is guilty of equivocation by conflating mathematical probability with natural possibility by claiming that the probability of h for subset (b) is infinitely small, while conversely, the improbability of h is very large, rendering the possibility of h, virtually zero.

Blurring the distinction between probability and possibility is the essence of a very popular form of relativism, which views truth and falsehood as probabilistic. Lataster has described the determination of truth as weighing probabilities (minute 45):

… [The] need to formulate probabilistic arguments in favor of theism, factoring in the alternatives, and doing the calculations which weigh out the probabilities.

However, this equivocation, characteristic of relativism, warrants no further consideration in this essay. The purpose of this essay is to show that Lataster’s probabilistic argument is not even in accord with Bayes’ theorem.

Lataster’s Reasoning Is Not Bayesian Reasoning

Lataster addresses a set that is divided into two subsets, (h) and (~h). The set is also independently divided into subsets, (e) and (b). It is thus, a Bayesian set. However, Lataster analyzes only subset (b). Subset (b) is divided into subsets (b,h) and (b,~h), where (b,h) / (b) is close to 0 and (b,~h) / (b) is, therefore, close to 1. However, Lataster takes these relationships within the subset (b) and gratuitously attributes them to the subset (e), the composition of which, by Bayesian definition, is independent of the subset (b).

In Bayes’ theorem subset (e) is divided into subsets (e,h) and (e,~h), but independently of the division of subset (b) into (b,h) and (b,~h). Lataster’s Bayesian reasoning claims that the fractional concentration of h in the subset (e) must equal the fractional concentration of h in the subset (b) even though subsets (e) and (b) are independent of one another by definition in Bayes’ theorem.

Bayes’ Theorem

Bayes’ theorem is a numerical data processing algorithm that is capable of processing numerical values that are 0 or virtually 0.

Bayes’ theorem defines the relationships among the subsets of a set (T). Using Lataster’s symbols for subsets, set (T) is divided into two subsets (h) and (~h) and independently into two other subsets (e) and (b). Subsets (e) and (h) overlap as subset (e,h). Using Lataster’s symbols, Bayes’ theorem as fractions of sets is:

(e,h) / (e) = { [(e,h) / (h)] × [(h) / (T)] } / [(e) / (T)]               Eq. 1

Verbally, the fraction of subset (e) that is also a subset of (h) equals a numerator and a denominator. The numerator is the product of that fraction of subset (h) that is also a subset of (e), times that fraction of the total set, (T), which is the subset (h). The denominator is the fraction of the total, (T), which is the subset (e).

Verbally, in terms of probabilities: The probability of h given e equals a numerator and a denominator. The numerator is the product of the probability of e given h times the probability of h given T. The denominator is the probability of e given T.

Note that Bayes’ theorem, Eq. 1, does not explicitly involve subset (b), the focus of Lataster’s analysis.

Replacing Angels with Vampires

Lataster identifies (e) as human deaths reported in specific Christian literature, namely, the Bible or a portion thereof. (It is not clear if Lataster includes any or all the books of the Bible besides Acts. This, however, does not affect his argument.) Implicitly, (T) would be human deaths reported in the specific Christian literature plus all other human deaths, (b). Thus (T) = (e) + (b). Lataster identifies (h) as humans slain by angels and (~h) human deaths other than due to angels. (T) = (h) + (~h). Thus, set (T) is defined as a Bayesian set.

To eliminate from the Bayesian analysis any distraction to that analysis due to historical claims of Christian revelation, I am identifying (h) as deaths due to vampires and replacing Christian biblical literature with two books of English literature, namely, Dracula by Bram Stoker and Hamlet by William Shakespeare. The deaths counted in this literature are those of named characters only. In Dracula, these are the deaths of Lucy and Quincey, of whom only Lucy is killed by a vampire. Quincey is killed in a battle with gypsies, who are allies of the vampires. In Hamlet, eight named characters die. All are killed, but none by a vampire. Therefore (e) = 10, which is 2+8, while (e,h) = 1, the death of Lucy.

Applying Lataster’s ‘Bayesian Reasoning’ to Deaths Due to Vampires in the Cited Literature

Parallel to what Lataster stated concerning deaths due to angels, it would be stated:

The inherent probability that anyone, as a matter of material reality, was killed by a vampire, i.e., the fraction, (b,h) / (b) is infinitely small [without considering the cited literature, (e)]. Conversely, the fraction (b,~h) / (b), is very large, rendering the possibility of h, virtually 0%. Given the inherently low value of the fraction, (h,b) / (b), there is nothing in the cited literature, (e), to overcome the conclusion that, (e,h) / (e), like (h,b) / (b), is virtually 0. We conclude that, as a matter of fact, Lucy was not slain by a vampire as reported in the book, Count Dracula by Bram Stoker.

This contradicts the literature that (e,h) = 1 and (e) = 10. By both Bayes’ theorem and the cited literature, (e,h) / (e) = 1/10, which is not virtually 0.

Processing Data Vs. Classifying Data

Lataster’s fundamental error is thinking that Bayes’ theorem is a method of classifying data, when in fact it is an algorithm for processing already classified data.

This essay presents Lataster’s argument, adapted to the English literature cited, rather than to the Biblical literature cited in his essay. The literature identifies the elements comprising the subset he labels (e). The complementary subset is (b), which is all actual human deaths to date. The sum of these two subsets is the total Bayesian population of deaths, (T). Note that all deaths of the Bayesian population (T) are classified as either (e) or (b). The other independent binary division of the total Bayesian population is into the subsets, (h) and (~h). These two subsets are also definitively classified: (h) as deaths by vampires/angels and (~h) all other deaths.

Bayes’ theorem simply processes data, which are the given numerical values of three ratios, namely (e,h) / (h), (h) / (T), and (e) / (T). By processing these by means of Eq. 1, the numerical value of (e,h) / (e) is obtained.

(e,h) / (e) = { [(e,h) / (h)] × [(h) / (T)] } / [(e) / (T)]               Eq. 1

Let (~h) be the estimated number of all actual deaths of humans to date, which is 101 billion, and let the number of deaths by vampires in set (b), which is (b,h) be actually 0. The ratio, (b,h) / (b) will then be actually 0, rather than infinitely small, as Lataster speculates. Then the three given ratios would be: (e,h) / (h) = 1, (h) / (T) = 1/ (101 billion + 10), and (e) / (T) = 10/(101 billion + 10).

The numerical ratio, (e,h) / (e), resulting from data processing the given ratios by the algorithm of Bayes’ theorem, Eq. 1, is 1/10. In contrast, the numerical value of (e,h) / (e) is 0 by Lataster’s “Bayesian reasoning.” [Note: The value would be 1/10, even if we took the ratio, (b,h) / (b) to be infinitely small, i.e. virtually 0, e.g. 1/(101 billion)]

Notice all data are classified. No classification of data is evaluated by Bayes’ theorem. Bayes’ theorem simply processes data that are classified as given.

From Bayes’ theorem, we know that 1 in every 10 named characters in the cited literature is killed by a vampire, but we don’t know the totals. We do know the totals are 1 and 10 from reading the literature and the 1 is named Lucy.

Conclusion

Raphael Lataster is equivocal in his iteration of relativism by conflating mathematical probability with possibility. However, his main error is a lack of understanding of Bayes’ theorem, just like Richard Carrier, whom he references as his guide. Lataster’s “Bayesian reasoning” contradicts the premise of Bayes’ theorem requiring independence in the definition of subsets.

This essay replaces angels with vampires and the Biblical literature with English literature consisting of Stoker’s Dracula and Shakespeare’s Hamlet. It also replaces Herod Agrippa’s death in Acts with Lucy’s death in Dracula. These replacements increase the ground of agreement by removing any disagreement that a person, such as myself, may have with Lataster about the existence and power of angels. It is thereby evident that Lataster’s characterization of the angelic cause of Herod’s death in Acts as an impossibility and as mythical has nothing to do with Bayes’ theorem or Bayesian reasoning.

Bayes’ theorem processes data as given. It cannot critique the given data. That vampires are purely fictitious does not affect the processing of data by Bayes’ theorem. The same is true for data involving angels, even if one judges angels to be mythical as does Lataster.

The greater the ground of agreement between those who disagree, the clearer their disagreement comes into focus. Thus, replacing angels with vampires and Biblical literature with English literature establishes the fact that Lataster’s “Bayesian reasoning” contradicts Bayes’ theorem. It also demonstrates that he argues falsely that Bayes’ theorem can be used to critique given data rather than be used solely to process given data algorithmically.

Addendum

If (h) / (T) = 0, then (e,h) / (e) = 0 according to Bayes’ theorem, Eq. 1. Bayes’ theorem is, thereby, in accord with the following logically valid rationale of interpolation:

(h) is a null subset of (T) or “There are no h’s in (T)”

(e) is a subset of (T)

Therefore,

(e,h) is a null subset of (e) or “There are no h’s in (e)”

Lataster does not err by implicitly affirming that interpolating rationale. He errs in his implicit argument for its major premise. His argument is illogical because it denies that, according to Bayes’ theorem, the subset (e) is the independent complement of the subset (b) in forming set (T) and therefore, (e) may contain elements that are h, even if (b) does not. Lataster’s implicit and false argument is:

(b,h) is a null subset of the subset (b) or “There are no h’s in (b)”

(b) is a subset of (T)

Therefore,

(h) is a null subset of (T) or “There are no h’s in (T)”

It is an error to extrapolate a condition within the subset (b) to the entire set (T), even if it is done unwittingly.

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7 thoughts on “Bayes’ Theorem, Vampires, and the Bible”

  1. Pingback: Bayes and Blueberries; or, Say “No” to Algebra - Catholic Stand

  2. In reply to An Ordinary Papist’s comments of December 1st:
    Saws are material while their use is kinetic, i.e. their use involves material motion. We could readily envision three products possessing three levels of quality, which could be evaluated quantitatively by some kinetic test. Sample saws of each product might be subjected to continuous standard use until their electric motors burn out. Let the hours of use for each product be bell shaped, with each having a mode, days different from the others. We could say that a saw of the highest level would probably outlast a saw of the lowest level. What do we mean by ‘probably’? Although we used an objective test, we are fundamentally expressing a subjective judgment about the future activity of a particular saw in comparison to others. Probably, in this context is a guess about the result of future activity of which we are currently ignorant.
    In contrast to this meaning of probability, there is another totally unrelated meaning of the word. Mathematical probability is static. It is the ratio of a subset to a set. For a set of four coins, of which one is a dime and three are quarters, the probability of a dime is one quarter. That’s it!
    Personal relationships are qualitative, no matter how strongly we may feel constrained to express them quantitatively. When we talk of degrees of love or hatred, degrees of heavenly beatitude, and degrees of agony or isolation in hell, we seem to be making quantitative distinctions. We are not. We appear to be doing so only because there are material limitations on human knowledge and on human expression. Our thoughts and verbal expressions are extrinsically dependent upon matter in this life. Jesus, in his verbal expression, was extrinsically limited, as we are, by matter.

    1. an ordinary papist

      I see, what you are saying is, you can’t mix apples and oranges. Thank you for all the input.

  3. I love your way-over-the-head-math, Bob, remember all the statistics you have proffered
    over the years, giving the odds of an occurrence on miracles, angels, events in the bible along with the possibilities and probabilities. What would simply ice the cake would be your awesome ability to crunch data and deduce the chances of a person committing a mortal sin and going to hell based on the number of times Jesus spoke of it as opposed to those statements that indicated a less fatal fate. For example, when he said some of the Pharisees were like white washed tombs, you would have to decide to factor that and decide if the pronouncement indicated damnation or not, as opposed to the pardon one should receive if they did (as opposed to did not) feed the hungry, clothe the naked ect.
    In any case, I do enjoy racking my brain to follow your sincere and earnest attempts at
    helping us understand what it takes to work out a solution.

    1. Say Hey! I enjoyed your critique. But, I’m on your side. Could anyone, who had such a grandiose view of the utility of mathematical probability, (which you attribute to me) write, ‘Given a set of four coins, consisting of one dime and three quarters, the probability of a dime is one quarter, i.e. 1/4. That’s it!’? (pun intended) Probability is the ratio of a subset to a set. Probability explains nothing. It is a tool that is used, when one is resigned to ignorance of an explanation. In games, such as the rank of poker hands, probability is accepted, not as some kinetically material fact, but by mutual convention.
      I have criticized the argument for the existence of God, called the ‘fine tuning’ of the universe because it is based on a logical contradiction. It rejects values of mathematical probability as invalid, while implicitly affirming their validity. (This is the same mathematical error that Dawkins’ makes in identifying his ‘problem of improbability’.) The valid and parallel philosophical argument for God’s existence is based on the self-evident principle that everything is inherently intelligible in its very existence. Intelligibility is not the default in cases of low probability as proposed by the ‘fine tuning’ argument.
      In my essay, I argued that Lataster’s rationale is neither Bayesian nor mathematically logical. We would understand Bayes’ theorem and its utility much more easily, if we discussed it in terms of ratios, rather than probabilities. It’s appropriate to meet opponents on their chosen turf, which for many relativists is mathematical probability and Bayes’ theorem.
      Please read the two very short essays I mentioned in my other comment.

  4. The simplicity of Bayes’ theorem can be seen in comparing it to the Pythagorean theorem. Its logic can be seen in comparing it to the logic of the syllogism. In a 200 word and a 500 word essay, respectively, I have recently made these comparisons at theyhavenowine.wordpress.com.

    1. an ordinary papist

      So, let me put this another way, which will most likely be the equivalent of chasing my
      tail, at which point you can point out I am going in circles and why it is so. If you recall Sears and the brand Craftsman, if you wanted to buy a skill saw, you had three choices : good-better-best. If we assigned a value of say 1,2,3, that indicates less likely to last (1), more likely to last (2) and will not only last but guaranteed (3), could this same system be applied to rate words, phrases and declarations that are indicative (in this study) of the severity of punishment that will be metered out at the last (or first depending how much one buys into the format) judgment ? Is it possible to take Jesus’ words regarding divine punishment describing different levels of severity for a given sin ? As an example, when speaking on Judas’ betrayal, and it being better if he had never been born (say a value of 3) or, having a great millstone placed around ones neck and throw into the sea (2) or, “go and sin no more.” (1) is it possible to make an algorithm that spans a base line of 0, above which are the stratification of good stewardship ie: they will be called great as opposed to least (Matt 5:19) in heaven, and below which are those in the depths of refinement or damnation ? Would such a graph tell us anything, especially if we add the number of times each positive or negative was spoken ? Thank you for any offering and I will not beat on this subject any more.

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